has the wt org.
published any figures on how many faithful "annointed" they think there've been since russell got things started back in the 1800s?
would be interested in subtracting that number from 144,000 to see how many faithful christians the jws say there were in the previous 1800 years or so.
Let's do it like this, I'll state:
"According to my best estimate, there have been more than 144,000 who have claimed to be of the annointed since Russell started".
Then you can do like the WTS and half quote me like this.
According to one expert "...there have been more than 144,000 who have claimed to be of the annointed since Russell started."
Now you have your answer.
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Funny how they had an article on deception last week when the week before they had one saying that Jehovah revealed the year 607 and the fact that 1914 was the begining of the end to the Bible students BEFORE 1914.
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am i right in thinking that about 1995 the teaching on the "sheep and goats" of matt 25 changed.. i vaguely remember that pre-1995 it used to regarded that the sheep and goats were judged on how they received the preaching work.
then post-1995 it changed to that jesus would judge them when he came at armageddon.. can anyone tell if this is right.
Why did that Happen?
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am i right in thinking that about 1995 the teaching on the "sheep and goats" of matt 25 changed.. i vaguely remember that pre-1995 it used to regarded that the sheep and goats were judged on how they received the preaching work.
then post-1995 it changed to that jesus would judge them when he came at armageddon.. can anyone tell if this is right.
For a recent example of the WTS's problems with changing doctrines check out the old "United in Worship" book and the new "Worship the Only True God". These books are word for word in many places.They both have the same chapter, Keeping Close in Mind Jehovah's Day. With the same subheading, Seperating of people. In the first book,1983, They state that people would be seperated into two groups, the wheat and the weeds. The wheat is identified as annointed Christians,( is there another kind?),these annointed Christians preached and further gathered more annointed Christians and then the Great Crowd. Mathew 13:36-43 is cited as support for the seperating of the annointed and Mathew 25:31-46 for the Great Crowd. In the new publication,2002, virtually the same is stated except that Mathew 25 is omitted because this doctrine has changed.They thus loose their scriptural support for any seperating of a non heavenly group of Christians.They attempt to offer support by injecting half quotes from Revelation 7 and John 10 surrounded by their own text.In fact if you read it with a free mind it sounds as though the Great Crowd is included in the Wheat and thus annointed. Basically I see the WTS as a log playing game of Jenga. A couple more pieces played and the hole thing will collapse.
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am i right in thinking that about 1995 the teaching on the "sheep and goats" of matt 25 changed.. i vaguely remember that pre-1995 it used to regarded that the sheep and goats were judged on how they received the preaching work.
then post-1995 it changed to that jesus would judge them when he came at armageddon.. can anyone tell if this is right.
For a recent example of the WTS's problems with changing doctrines check out the old "United in Worship" book and the new "Worship the Only True God". These books are word for word in many places.They both have the same chapter, Keeping Close in Mind Jehovah's Day. With the same subheading, Seperating of people. In the first book,1983, They state that people would be seperated into two groups, the wheat and the weeds. The wheat is identified as annointed Christians,( is there another kind?),these annointed Christians preached and further gathered more annointed Christians and then the Great Crowd. Mathew 13:36-43 is cited as support for the seperating of the annointed and Mathew 25:31-46 for the Great Crowd. In the new publication,2002, virtually the same is stated except that Mathew 25 is omitted because this doctrine has changed.They thus loose their scriptural support for any seperating of a non heavenly group of Christians.They attempt to offer support by injecting half quotes from Revelation 7 and John 10 surrounded by their own text.In fact if you read it with a free mind it sounds as though the Great Crowd is included in the Wheat and thus annointed. Basically I see the WTS as a log playing game of Jenga. A couple more pieces played and the hole thing will collapse.
